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‘Current
US laws allow drug companies to patent inventions forever’
Mark
Pohl is a registered patent attorney with Licensing Law, a US
law firm dealing with patent applications, infringement opinions
and licensing. He obtained his doctoral degree in law in 1993, after
which he worked as an intern with with a reputed US lawyer firm.
Later, he also served pharmaceutical company Wyeth Laboratories
before moving in to Licensing Law. An extremely soft-spoken man,
Mark seems to be an aberration among the apparently aggressive US
lawyers’ community. But he says his soft-spoken nature has proven
to be his biggest asset. He says judges see pushy and aggressive
lawyers all the time and with him they appreciate his honesty, directness
and certain amount of humility. Mark, who claims to have never lost
a case, spoke with Ananth Iyer on current law for generics in the
US, their ramifications on the drug industry and on the unfolding
future scenario. Excerpts:
What
is the mood in the US drug industry considering that drugs worth
billions of dollar face patent expiry in the next five years? What
sort of strategies various stakeholders in such a scenario are playing?
The
mood in the drug industry, frankly, is euphoric because this could
be the largest disaster financially for the drug industry in a generation
- the highest percentage of drugs going off patent in the shortest
amount of time. However, the drug industry is doing all it can to
minimize the impact. The US is governed by a republican congress,
which is dominated by the Republican political party. The President
too is from the Republican Party. The party receives a lot of funding
from the drug industry and they do not intend to change the laws
that may adversely impact drug companies in the US. Thirdly, the
judiciary, in the past year, has given rulings on two court cases.
If you take both of these court cases together, what it means is
that drug companies effectively can have patent protection extended
almost forever. One ruling came from a judge in New York city and
she said that even if a drug company has a patent and the patent
is going to expire, it has always been the rule that the drug company
can apply as many new patents to cover that drug. Moreover, the
judgement also freezed approval of any non-patented copycat drug
for a period of 30 months for each of the new patent filed by the
innovator company to allow time for a court case relating to the
patent to go on. This means, for example, that a company can apply
for, say, five silly patents and then five times over they can approach
the court to get 30-month extension on each of the five patents.
This can go on literally indefinitely.
So
what are the options before the generic drug industry?
There
are only two options. One way to fix this problem is changing the
law. But, for this to happen, the Congress has to write a law and
the President has to sign the law to approve it. The Republican
legislature and Republican executive are not going to change the
law. So, the second way to fix this problem is to have a government
agency come in to investigate and prosecute drug companies for illegal
extension of patent monopoly. Now, here again, there is a second
court ruling, where the judge had said that the government agency
responsible for doing such kinds of prosecution do not have the
ability to approach the court for prosecution against illegal extension
of monopoly, since the agency does not have the professional expertise
to make evaluations of patents as it does not have any patent lawyers
on the staff.
The
ruling seems technically fair. So, whats stopping these agencies
to hire patent attorneys?
The
enforcement agencies spent literally millions of dollars to make
a political case. But they were severely reprimanded by the judge
since the agencies did not have patent attorneys on staff and neither
did a law firm represent them. Employing patent attorneys or hiring
a law firm means paying them and that could run into millions of
dollars. My sense is that people responsible for government budgets
may ask the agency why we should give millions to hire attorneys
when it has wasted millions of dollars for nothing.
That
leaves us with the judgement of the Federal district court saying
drug companies can have infinite number of 30-month patent extension
stacked on and the patent does not have to be of good quality at
all. They can simply be a piece of paper with PATENT written on
top of it.
How
is the generic drug industry in the US measuring up to this challenge?
That
is a very real question right now. The generic industry is not able
to put up a cohesive challenge. At least that is my personal impression.
The way the law stands now, a drug company with patents should be
able to prolong patent protection forever with the help of good
legal advice. I spoke at a generic drug industry conference in Washington
DC last year where I explained to them this problem. I asked them
what do they think they are going to do about it and I did not hear
any concrete proposal from any one.
What
are your comments on Barr Laboratories model of challenging
and breaking innovators patent?
Barr
Laboratories model is to challenge and break a patent and
get rewarded for it. But, Barr Laboratories has a problem. If Barr
Laboratories challenge one patent and the drug companies are allowed
to keep adding new patents, it would be extremely difficult for
Barr to sustain in this game. For a manufacturer, it costs maybe
USD 30,000-40,000 to get a new patent. For Barr to challenge one,
the cost is 10-100 times. So, there is a great financial disadvantage
to the generic company. So, Barr may recoup legal charges if it
wins with one patent challenge. But, if Barr has to contest 5-6
patents, there may not be enough money to be made to compensate
for that many numbers of challenges.
So,
unless the laws are changed, generic companies would continue to
arrive in the US with a disadvantage?
Yes.
There are several ways generic companies can address this problem.
One is to spend a lot of money in Washington to get the law changed.
Second would be to spend a lot of money buying licenses from big
pharma companies. The third way and perhaps the most cost-effective
way is to spend some money on applying for patents themselves. Because
once you do that it can be a very good bargaining tool with big
pharma companies. This is the only cost-effective solution on the
table right now considering the current environment.
How
does this model work?
For
a generic company the first thing to do is to look inward and examine
what you make and how you make it. Second, you look at other peoples
IPR and compare them with your own to see if in fact you have infringed
and the third step, which goes along with the second step, is to
see whether there is something new and file your own patents. Once
you see whether you have infringed others rights and patent
your own rights, you can start negotiating for a business deal with
the innovator. Also, you can then trade your IPR with IPRs of either
the innovator company or with a competing pharma company. Although
this model is new to the pharmaceutical industry, it has been effectively
used in the electronic industry, where the industry standards are
maintained by different companies cooperatively exchanging patents
so that the market is open to a larger universe of people who collectively
advance the technology.
The
very basis of generic industry model is pricing. Will this model
nullify the fundamental advantages of the generic industrythe
pricewhich may then be not very cheap compared to the innovator
product?
You
will have two results. The first result is that for true commodity
products, the price will remain at a commodity level. For truly
innovative products, they will always command a premium price. The
model we discussed will create a middle level group of products
and they will tend to be priced more highly than they are now. In
fact, generic drugs that are in the middle level (with little degree
of innovation) the price will be higher than they would have. That
is the disadvantage. The advantage is that there would be more variety
of products in the middle range.
In
the conventional IPR regime, for number of years, we had some kind
of monopolistic situation, which never brought the prices down.
It now appears that in the so-called war between the innovator and
generic manufacturers, we are reaching an in-between scenario. Isnt
it like saying generics are ok but there has to be some degree of
innovation?
That
may be the effect of what they are doing. But, as regards the cause
- in my sense and I do not want to sound pessimistic -, I feel you
have thought ahead more thoroughly than perhaps the senior management
of drug companies have. My sense is that senior management of large
companies are simply looking at how to maximize profits on a short-term
basis. They think the future evolution of drug industry is the problem
of their successors.
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